Saturday, August 23, 2008

Performing an autopsy without the corpse

And that's the sleight of hand NIST performed when they did the review of the WTC 7 collapse without examining any of the steel beams, girders or columns that fell that day. It was based on computer models.

BTW, NIST why present this on C-Span on late Thursday evening? Kinda of weird hour to lay bare "irrefutable" truths for the general public, isn't it? Did you hope that all of the hoopla over Obama's VP choice the next day would drown out your packet of lies and duplicity?

Why let something like technicalities get in the way of a pre-ordained answer to the question of what DID cause the building to fall rather neatly into its own footprint. All presented and hosted by a self-described "expert" on building construction and fire impact on buildings, Shyam Sunder.

And who is this Shyam Sunder? An engineer or fire control specialist or something along that line? NO.

Shyam Sunder is the James L. Frank Professor of Accounting, Economics, and Finance at the Yale School of Management; Professor in the Department of Economics; and Professor (Adjunct) at the Yale Law School. He is a world-renowned accounting theorist and experimental economist. His research contributions include financial reporting, dissemination of information in security markets, statistical theory of valuation and design of electronic markets.

It would appear that there are TWO Shyam Sunder's in America, the one who toils in books for Yale and the one who is some sort of engineering genius on the collapse of WTC 7.

From the NIST report:

“Video and photographic evidence combined with detailed computer simulations show that neither explosives nor fuel oil fires played a role in the collapse of WTC 7,” Sunder said. The NIST investigation team also determined that other elements of the building’s construction—namely trusses, girders and cantilever overhangs that were used to transfer loads from the building superstructure to the columns of the electric substation (over which WTC 7 was constructed) and foundation below—did not play a significant role in the collapse.

Yet, in the 2002 FEMA report, they said that the diesel fuel DID contribute to the collapse?? Don't you feds have a Lie Control Ministry that coordinates these multitude of lies and deceits?

Want to see these pics of this out of control fire the NIST said was responsible for the collapse? Click on this PDF doc to see the entire packet of NIST's bought and paid for lies.

Here's NIST's pic of that raging fire:

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BTW, NIST, when i tried to copy and save these photos, i ran up against a Password protected block?? What's with that? If this is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, why try and hide the evidence from the public? As you can see, NIST, it didn't work.

In the next picture, you'll see the beams and girders, pre-fire, with plenty of fire-proofing. What about that, Mr. Sunder? No jets hit WTC 7, so why did the fire-proofing fail?
"Uhhh, just read the report, our credentials are impeccable."

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This is the "out of control" contents fire that brought down Mighty Casey... oops, wrong fairy tale. As any firefighter can tell you, a contents fire is a fire that consumes the buildings contents, like furniture, carpet, paint, paper documents, etc.
Sunder wants us to believe that ALL of the offices and rooms in that massive structure had approximately the same contents, which caught fire at the same time and burned at the same rate and emitted the same temperatures.

BS. That doesn't happen, except in Sunder and NIST's Department of Lies, Deceit and Propaganda.

What about a controlled demolition thru the use of explosives?

Again, from the NIST report: The team said that the smallest blast event capable of crippling the critical column would have produced a “sound level of 130 to 140 decibels at a distance of half a mile,” yet no noise this loud was reported by witnesses or recorded on videos.

Except that when NIST showed the CBS video of the collapse, you know the one that had the squibs popping out of several floors immediately prior to and during the collapse, well they conveniently cut that side of the building out of the video, Photoshopped it out of existence.

No muss, no fuss, according to NIST, it's now official, that portion of the video never existed.

And if if doesn't exist now, it didn't exist in the past and if it's not in the past, it won't be available for the future, right, Mr. Orwell?

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And here:

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Sunder went to great lengths to pound into our heads that there were NO explosions, since an explosion would have been heard all over downtown Manhattan. Except when one astute attendee pointed out that thermite doesn't make that kinda sound, Sunder ignored the question and went to the next one, like the one from a reporter from InfoWars. (And what about that all that molten steel was still in liquid form weeks later?)

This Infowars guy was laying bare NIST's lies by quoting NIST's past statements and was formulating a helluva question when the lights dimmed and the mic was slowly removed from this guy's face. By the time the lights came full back on, the mic was too far away to hear what the InfoWars guy was saying.

What about his questions, Mr. Sunder?

No problem, just dismiss them with a condescending "Read the report, then you can ask questions."

Time for one more question and this one came from an obvious plant.

"Uhh, Mr. Sunder, what are you going to do with the people that refuse to believe these facts?" Nice pitch, for softball.

Another lame ass answer, then the mic came off and Sunder sat down. Case solved and dismissed.

Any questions for the NIST ?

Just email a Ben STEIN( or Michael NEWMAN( or contact Simon Szykman.
Yeah, right. And why is the top spot not filled? Did that guy have a pang of conscience and quit before this whitewash was made available to the public?


  1. With all due respect, because I'm in agreement with your conclusions, it would appear there are in fact two Shyam Sunders. The one working for NIST is in fact quite credentialed.

  2. Bacon Well Exposes Judeo-Conspirators Manipulating People's Terror Borne Of "Good-Evil" Heresy
    (Apollonian, 25 Aug 08)

    Greg Bacon is eminently justified for his conclusions--regardless of idiot "credentials" of Shyam Sunder, the shit-colored dink.

    For observe purpose of any report is information--which "info" is useless unless it's in terms people can understand which Bacon rightfully demands.

    Observe any way one looks at it, one must observe WTC-7 was classic controlled demolition, this done by demolition charges--why?--because the collapse WAS SOOOOOO PERFECT--it couldn't have been ANYTHING OTHER than such controlled demolition, which is actually such difficult thing to accomplish, as all experts testify, such absolutely PERFECT building implosion--there's no other proper conclusion.

    Indeed, it's hardly "conclusion" (for controlled demo)--rather simple observation.

    For INDUCTIVE LOGIC and scientific method ABSOLUTELY REQUIRES working hypothesis and tentative conclusion for controlled demo.

    Any thesis to contrary of such controlled demolition must make sense without special pleading, which such special pleading necessarily disqualifies anti-thesis--which already in first place is itself a form of special pleading.

    Thus we have "special pleading" backing-up special pleading against the obvious, necessary INDUCTIVE CONCLUSION for all science and logic.

    And now, as scientists, we look for CONFIRMATION of necessary conclusion of INDUCTIVE LOGIC. And we see, for one thing, the persistent efforts of gov. conspiracy theorists (to effect it was "al qaeda" responsible, etc.) to lie, cover-up, and intimidate the people--as for instance when they sneeringly demand people "read the report"--before asking questions--who would say this?--and why?--but for criminal conspirators continuing effort to intimidate the people.

    Thus we see YET MORE LYING, and special-pleading, backed up by YET MORE INTIMIDATION, etc. Observe then original inductive conclusion (controlled demo) is simply confirmed evermore.

    For "reading" should only be necessary for confirmation of info, as info must make sense, as by means of simple verbal delivery. And if verbal delivery of such info is not understandable, then reading is not likely to help--as we see. It's verbal report which is necessarily at issue--AND IT DOESN'T AND DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.

    Hence then we observe sad and tragic spectacle of pathetic and horribly disinformed people, so confused, transfixed, and paralyzed in TERROR at betrayal by their own government which is evermore palpably guilty of mass-murder--OF ITS OWN PEOPLE. The poor people have difficulty believing the horrific truth--stunned as their gov. continues to bully and intimidate them.

    Such terror and fear of the people is simple result of "good-evil" heresy drummed into the people's mentality over generations.

    For "good-evil" breeds GUILT which is mere seed of fear and terror which Judeo-conspirators (see for expo/ref. on CFR-Bilderberg conspiracy) manipulate and exploit.

    Culturally and socio-biologically, we thus observe liquidation of last remnants of people's childish confidence in traitors and New World Order (NWO) Judeo-conspirators in control.

    The people simply need new leadership upon premise of HONESTY--against fatal false premises of "good-evil" (neo-) Pelagianist hereticalism which has thus far betrayed the people so horribly.

    CONCLUSION: People of the West desperately need JEW-EXPULSION, thus original anti-semitic (anti-Talmud, as Gosp. MARK 7:1-13) Christianity featuring honesty and truth against Jew lies--like especially "good-evil" fallacy/delusion. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

  3. If you go to the link on Sunder, you'll see a photo that looks amazingly similar to the NIST Sunder.

    Yes, there could be two Shyam Sunder's, but isn't that a little odd for such a unique name?

    Another piece of switch and bait by those liars, thieves and murderers in the White House.

  4. This is the result of allowing people to "semance" themselves out of their responsibility to WE THE PEOPLE.

    WE THE PEOPLE want a government that DOES NOT LIE TO ITS PEOPLE.


    You are LEMMINGS.

    Today, I proclaim that the sky will turn red at 7:41 PM.

    Just because I proclaimed it as such, DOES NOT NECESSARILY MAKE IT SO.

    So...when you hear about fire melting the supports of a SKYSCRAPER...don't be foolish - think about demolition experts.

    Don't you think they be out of a job, if if were truly so easy to bring down buildings into their footprints with FIRES...well, they'd all be out of jobs.

    "Just send in the pyros - have ten go to this space on their respective floors, and let's start cookin'!

    Just get 'em out before the barbecue gets underway - their marshmallows are outside - let's make S'Mores, baby!"

    Really - what can we say to you people to convine you?

    Here's my problem...I don't like being LIED TO by DULLARDS.

    A dullard is a fellow who will try to shortchange you five dollars on a dollar purchase.

    "It says right here that the item is 99 cents! This is a dollar store, right?"

    "Well...this item was actually marked incorrectly - it should be $4.99."

    "What? How is that possible - this is a DOLLAR STORE, right?"

    "Well, it SAYS dollar store, but this is $4.99."

    Yes...I know that the preceding conversation has no basis in reality...but NEITHER DOES THE EXPLANATION(S) OFFERED BY THE NIST!

    The "Thermal Expansion" is a crock of bull pellets!

    A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION was used to collapse the Salomon Brothers Building...and the sooner you get it through your thick heads, the sooner we can reclaim our nation from the fifth column that threatens to take ALL OF OUR RIGHTS AWAY via manipulation and chicanery.

    Repeat after me:


    Okay, class, let's take five.


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